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Neo-Facists Disprupt Presentation

Via Eurolang

Neo-fascists disrupt presentation of the first Greek-Macedonian Dictionary in Athens

Skopje and Athens, Wednesday, 03 June 2009 by Georgios N. Papadakis

The presentation of the first Greek-Macedonian dictionary was brutally disrupted last night in Athens by a group of Greek ultra-nationalists belonging to the neo-fascist organization “Hrissi Avgi” (Golden Dawn).

A few minutes after the beginning of the event, which was taking place in the Foreign Press Association in Athens, the group invaded the premises shouting “This is Greece, traitors and homosexuals get out!”, verbally and physically attacked the panellists, other participants, and the only TV crew filming the event. They also seized mobile phones and confiscated all material related with the promotion of the dictionary – books, informational leaflets and banners.

A video, released on You Tube, pictures the thugs as they take over the room, shouting in Greek: “Shame on you, it’s disgraceful what is happening here…You drug-addicts, you have the nerves to present a “Macedonian” dictionary here …We are throwing these books in the dust bin and all of you out, now! It’s over! …Let me see your mobile phones as you leave! .. You anti-Greek worms…”

The participants were effectively kept as hostages for almost half an hour and the assailants only left the building when they were informed that the police were on their way.

The police were not present at the time of the attack, although the Hrissi Avgi and other Greek “patriotic” organizations had publicly announced their intentions to stop the presentation by force.

The Greek mainstream media were also absent and the promotion was covered only by Alfa TV from the Republic of Macedonia.

Mr Athanassios Parissis, President of Greek member state committee of EBLUL, was speaking at the event and can be seen sitting at the right hand end of the table in the video.

Speaking to Eurolang today he said that: “The human rights movement in Greece, and the Macedonian activists in particular, are used to this kind of intimidation and attacks. Until yesterday we were also used to having strong police protection. Surprisingly, the moment that these attackers realized that the police were temporarily not there, they decided to act. They had a very specific plan, to terrorize and intimidate us and to stop the event, without a lot of physical violence, without blood.

He added: “We were calm, we did not react, we did not leave the room when they ordered us to, and by acting like this we effectively forced them to leave”.

The dictionary- the life’s work of the Aegean Macedonian Vasko Karadza who died in exile a few years ago- was published by “Zora” editions with the support of the Greek Member State Committee of EBLUL and the EFA-Rainbow party. It’s considered to be the most comprehensive work of its kind and it’s going to be followed soon by a Macedonian-Greek dictionary.

Keynote speakers of the presentation were Professor Victor Friedman, Department of Slavic and Balkan Languages, University of Chicago, USA and Dr. Riki van Boeschoten, Professor at the Faculty of Social Anthropology, University of Thessaly, Greece. (Eurolang 2009)

The attack can be seen on YouTube

18 Comments

  1. Oath Taken
    June 4, 2009    

    As can be seen by the video however the part about

    The participants were effectively kept as hostages for almost half an hour and the assailants only left the building when they were informed that the police were on their way.

    is inaccurate. The whole incident lasted 4 minutes. Unfortunately the far left was not there to take proper care of the eggheads they only way they understand (broken ribs).

  2. No Gods No Masters
    June 5, 2009    

    There are already many Greek-Bulgarian dictionaries published in Greece. That was just another provocation of the Bulgarian nationalists of the United Statist protectorate north of Greece.

    All the video depicts is a usual cockfight between the nationalists of both sides.

  3. Xenos
    June 7, 2009    

    Of course, Xryssi Avgi are Nazis. And contrary to the ignorant comment of the last commenter, the whole issue of Macedonian as a language in its own right (as opposed to being a dialect of Bulgarian)is central to the Rep. of Macedonia. This debate has existed for 150 years, when Greece, Serbia and Bulgaria effectively stopped recognition of Macedonia as an ethnic identity because each wished to annex the territory for itself. The issue has a parallel with Serbia versus Croatia, for example, where the languages are nearly identical: they are probably closer than the different versions of English spoken in England. Yet nobody disputes that Serbia and Croatia are different countries and identities.

    The provocation on macedonia has always been from Greece, Bulgaria and Serbia: congratulations to a few Greeks who try to redress the scandalous behaviour of Greece in the last 150 years.

  4. No Gods No Masters
    June 7, 2009    
  5. Michael Scowcroft
    June 8, 2009    

    Of course, Xryssi Avgi are Nazis.

    Does anyone know if the far-right in Greece has an elected representive in the European Parliament?

    Unbelievably, my fellow Brits in Yorkshire and Humberside have just voted for the British National Party (far-right) candidate as Member of European Parliament.
    Thanks to the stupidity and racism of some Brits in Yorkshire, the fascists now have a mandate in Europe. We Brits have just given fascists the legitimacy they’ve craved in Europe…A truly sad day for British and European politics. And it could get worse, the vote count for other areas of the UK hasn’t finished yet…

  6. Michael Scowcroft
    June 8, 2009    

    Damn, they’ve just won another seat! We now have TWO fascist Nazis representing Britain in the European Parliament.

    How many fascist candidates did the Greek electorate vote to the European Parliament? Does anyone know?

  7. June 8, 2009    

    Chrisi Avgi don’t have anybody in the European Parliament and they never will. Personally I don’t like their ways and ideas at all…

    These people, not the ultra-nationalists but the speakers, have a well-known anti-hellenic activity in Greece.

    Some of them they say in public that Greece is a 3rd world nation maded by a group of gypcies, Turks, Bulgars, Serbs, Italians and Germans (!). They also spread the idea that south Greeks have an african DNA instead of northern Greeks that have European DNA. (the specific project was marked by the best univercities of the world as a pseudoscience). Yet some of them speak about big parts of north Greece should be given away to FYROM. (!) One of them was arrested with cocaine in the past (that’s why they say about drugs). The party they so-called “Macedonian” minority gets less than 0.5% in every election in Greece. And the list goes on….

    Well when you act like this, you go for it.
    However the ultra-nationalists didn’t hit or scrach anyone of them.

    Shame to both sides if you want my opinion.

    You can find more info about all these in Youtube and some other websites.

    Don’t be afraid to contact me personaly if you want more some information. Thank you in advance.

  8. Michael Scowcroft
    June 8, 2009    

    Chrisi Avgi don’t have anybody in the European Parliament and they never will.

    Greece should be very thankful to it’s electorate for that.

    Allowing the fascist scum to represent us in Europe is a damning indictment on the British electorate.

    BNP to get £4million cash boost as party celebrates first ever Euro election successes
    The far-Right British National Party will receive a £4million boost to its income after its European election breakthrough.
    The neo-fascist party sent shockwaves through Westminster by winning two seats as voters turned their back on the political establishment.
    BNP leader Nick Griffin won in the North-West and Andrew Brons snatched a seat from Labour in Yorkshire and the Humber after their vote collapsed.
    Now thanks to a lucrative system of pay and allowances, the two MEPs will bring a much-needed bonanza to the previously cash-strapped party.
    Each qualifies for an annual package of £395,000, and over the five years until the next election, the two together will be able to claim almost £4million.
    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1191424/EUROPEAN-ELECTIONS-BNP-wins-seat-EU-Parliament-Labour-crash.html

  9. Stassa
    June 8, 2009    

    Well, the good news is that UKIP now holds 13 seats in the European parliament. With some hard work, I’m sure they’ll manage to take the UK out of the EU, to the benefit of all interested. And good riddance, says I.

  10. Michael Scowcroft
    June 9, 2009    

    Well, the good news is that UKIP now holds 13 seats in the European parliament. With some hard work, I’m sure they’ll manage to take the UK out of the EU, to the benefit of all interested. And good riddance, says I.

    Stassa,

    I cannot see how UKIP’s success in the Euro elections is “good news” (especially for people who claim to support the rights of immigrants). UKIP’s immigration policy resembles the anti-immigrant policies of the fascist BNP.

    UKIP’s “immigration freeze” for five years? What’s all that about?

    I could never support a party which has such close ties with the far-right.
    Do you know that Aidan Rankin, co-author of UKIP’s 2001 manifesto, was once involved with the Third Way, which was founded by former members of the National Front. Alistair McConnachie, a five-time UKIP candidate and National Executive member, was expelled from UKIP for his views on the Holocaust. Some other candidates were formerly members of the New Britain Party, during a brief phase in the 1990s when it presented itself as a moderate anti-EU party.
    Buster Mottram, a UKIP member who claimed to represent the BNP, made an offer of a pact between the BNP and UKIP for the 2009 Euro elections after turning up uninvited at a UKIP executive meeting.

    If you read some of the comments in some of UKIP videos, you’d see that their support comes from the same intolerant and ignorant knuckle-dragging racists from the far-right.

    “I support the BNP but I put? policies over party. If UKIP can do what it claims it wants to then I will support them 100%. As it stands now, I simply don’t trust UKIP’s leadership. Something doesn’t seem right. The amount of positive press they get from the establishment media makes me think something shady is going on.”

    “Yes, Britain is a nation worth defending! As? a German I can’t believe the English, who so bravely defended Britania against the Kaiser and the Fuehrer, are just handing their country over to Paki muslims and eastern European geust workers. Get off your ass, John Bull&kick those who don’t respect your culture off the island! 5 stars for the honorable Nigel Farage from Germany!”

    “I voted BNP..Immigration needs to Stop till the economy Picks Up,,Then let all? The Immigrants In…”

    I’m always surprised by people who claim to support the rights of immigrants on the one hand, but voice their support for anti-immigrant parties like UKIP and the BNP on the other. It seems totally contradictory to me.

    But yes the BNP victory was a shocker and distressing.

    I wish i could say i was shocked. It was always on the cards given the anti-European racism prevalent in my country….Have you noticed that the anti-EU sentiment in the UK had only really gained momentum after the “neo-neanderthal” countries such as Romania, Bulgaria etc gained entry to the EU?

    Typical British intolerant attitudes came to prominence once more when the poorer eastern European countries were accepted into the EU:
    “Bloody Europeans, coming over here taking our jobs… backward, third-world EU countries getting our tax money..send em all back to where they came from and let’s get out of Europe!”
    (But that shouldn’t apply to the 2 million Brits living and working in Europe…) :)

    Unfortunately, for most of us Brits, anywhere south of the English Channel is where “Johnny Foreigner” resides and we don’t want anything to do with him. British xenophobia at it’s purest.

  11. Stassa
    June 9, 2009    

    Yes, Michael, I know full well who the UKIP (and the BNP) are. What I’m saying is that, to use a phrase I learned in a similar conversation a while ago, “The UK’s chicks have come home to roost”. Brits have constantly nagged and whinged against the EU and jutted their chins out and puffed their chests, waving their little flags for independence from “Brussels bureaucrats” and “the contintent” and so on and so forth. Your country is nothing but a pain in the arse of Europe, a constant disruptive force in the way of European progress towards full confederation. Its governments constantly strive to protect its own interests in the expense and detriment of everyone else. And its people can’t stop hating everyone that isn’t Brittish born and bred for fifteen generations. Your country is an isolationist wart on the face of European unification and if we’re going to go ahead with a truly united Europe, it must either change, radically and for good, or drop out of a United Europe.

    The UKIP seems to have a clear preference in the matter. And now your people gave it a vote of confidence. So I say: good bloody riddance already. And don’t bother to write.

    Clear? I don’t like your people more than they like mine. Fair no?

  12. June 15, 2009    

    Someone on this thread claims that I was “expelled” from UKIP. This is not the case. I explained the full story, when I stood for the Scottish Parliament in 2007, in my article published on the 11 April 2007 here:
    http://www.sovereignty.org.uk/features/articles/manifesto07/mystand.html

    Alistair McConnachie
    http://www.sovereignty.org.uk

  13. Michael Scowcroft
    June 17, 2009    

    Alistair,
    Even if we accept your story, the fact remains that UKIP has it’s roots in the far-right. The success of UKIP and the BNP in the Euro Elections is definitely not a cause for celebration for tolerant Britain.

  14. June 17, 2009    

    Sorry folks… I’ve had guests this week and haven’t been able to be here. I will read over everything on Friday and respond. Back to normal blogging next week.

  15. Post Disagreement
    June 18, 2009    

    Macedonian language…you know if they called it Slavic-Macedonian then perhaps this would b e okay, but to call it Macedonian means its the language of the northern portion of Greece. So this makes no sense this name of this dictionary.

    I suppose to Diva and Xenos and others Greece and Greeks would be “good” if we follow policies that will ensure that ethnic Greeks will become a minority in Greece in a very short time and relinquish all our sovereignty and history:

    1) let FYROM call its self Macedonia and undermine our sovereignty. Let these slavic people who came to the region 1000 year ago claim they are associated with Alexander the Great and they are the original Macedonians and let them take over the north of our country. Recognize a macedonian minority etc.

    2) legalize all 2.5 million immigrants who are in Greece..Yes there are that many.. last year we had 146,000 hit out shores.

    You know what thats why I hate you and Xenos..because you want death for my people.

  16. Xenos
    June 18, 2009    

    Post Disagreement: Let’s get some things straight. I have no desire to see Greece damaged or its culture weakened by immigration or problems with the Republic of Macedonia. If anything, my complaint with modern Greece is that it lost its real culrural heritage some time ago, and replaced it with a fraudulent nationalistic one in order to fit in with Europe. The real Greeks over the last 500 years were an interesting collection of people with diverse regional cultures, histories, languages, etc. Not until the British and French forced the idea on them, did it even occur to them to claim direct descent from historical figures who happened to speak Greek. And quite rightly so.

    Insofar as the fraudulent claim of 146,000 irregular immigrants arriving last year is concerned, the real figure is 45,000 via Turkey and a similar number from Albania (with a few via Bulgaria and Macedonia). The remainder consists of people arrested in Athens, not for having arrived recently but for failing to have a valid residence permit. Many of these people had been living in Greece for years, if not decades, and it is my belief that many of them had expired residence permits. Such people have legal rights, but the Greek state seems to think that international human rights law should not apply in Greece.

    Of those who arrived in the last year, the number who applied for political asylum is unclear but substantial. Again, the Greek state refuses to obey the law and makes a mockery of the Geneva Convention. I am not claiming that all, or even most of those applying, have a clear claim to protection. What I am sure about is that the proportion with such a claim is well above 0.01%. What is even more ridiculous is that everyone who gets to the front of the queue at Petrou Ralli police station is given a 6-month permit to work.

    Basically, Greek nationalism and an arrogant disdain for the rule of law is what characterises this whole situation. A little more respect for real greek history and human rights law is all that I ask. Is it too much?

  17. Michael Scowcroft
    June 18, 2009    

    Basically, Greek nationalism and an arrogant disdain for the rule of law is what characterises this whole situation.

    Arrogant British racism characterises your situation.

  18. Nemesistt
    June 20, 2009    

    Post Disagreement: Let’s get some things straight. I have no desire to see Greece damaged or its culture weakened by immigration or problems with the Republic of Macedonia.

    By calling FYROM the “Republic of Macedonia”, you already state you are an enemy of the Greek people. There is no suck entity, and will never be one, as long as Greeks exist.

    If anything, my complaint with modern Greece

    Oh, you have a ..”complaint” with modern Greece? You can take it to your local Greek embassy, i m sure they ll take in under consideration.

    is that it lost its real culrural heritage some time ago, and replaced it with a fraudulent nationalistic one in order to fit in with Europe.

    So, YOU are going to tell Greeks what is their “real” cultural heritage, is that right? You are pretty good with jokes, arent you?

    The real Greeks over the last 500 years were an interesting collection of people with diverse regional cultures, histories, languages, etc.

    How kind of you, to find us Greeks “interesting”. You must think of yourself as some kind of “archaelogist”, that studies with interest those weird Greeks, don’t you.

    I have a quote for you, it comes from one of the most important Greek philosophers of the modern times and it concerns foreigners. You are of the people he wrote it about:

    “You are not the ones who are going to judge us, yesterday’s wild pigs, we are the ones who will judge you and your culture.” Perikles Giannopoulos (1869-1910).

    Not until the British and French forced the idea on them, did it even occur to them to claim direct descent from historical figures who happened to speak Greek. And quite rightly so.

    There is historical continuity in Greeks from atleast 1000 years bc to our days. Just because you don’t come from a similar culture thus you cannot comprehend such a continuity and historical connection, doesnt mean it is not present in other cultures, like in Greeks.

    Basically, Greek nationalism and an arrogant disdain for the rule of law is what characterises this whole situation. A little more respect for real greek history and human rights law is all that I ask. Is it too much?

    If you ask it nicely, maybe we ll take it under consideration. You have to say “please”.
    Seriously, [real Greek history] and [human rights law] are not compatible with each other, don’t you get it fellow? Don’t be anti-Greek, no good has come out of it for anyone who tried it..

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